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heather wilson. they discuss modernization efforts and military readiness cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr. this is likely one of heather wilson's last appearances as air force secretary as she prepares to step down at the end of the month to become president of the university of texas at el paso. announcer: good afternoon. welcome to meridian international center. my name is stuart holliday. i am the president and ceo. it is wonderful to see so many ambassadors here with us today. we are delighted to have you, and thank you for your service .o your countries we are also delighted to have the secretaries of the air force and the army here, and barbara starr, who will be joining us in just a moment. of word of introduction about. our series, this is part of diplomatic insight series that is part of our center for diplomatic engagement, where we
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sec. wilson: does that mean i am old? [laughter] >> no. just means you started when you were about 8 years old in your career. [laughter] mr. holliday: barbara, as you know, has been with cnn, where she leads the pentagon effort, coverage and prior to her service with cnn, she has also worked for abc news and has been part of a lot of other media efforts including running the bureau. so barbara, thank you for being here and secretary, thank you for taking time out of your day to cross the river and over to you barbara. ms. starr: great.
thank you for coming out on a rainy, drippy day but for the press corp., thank you both for being here. >> so are we. [laughter] going to: so i am not go through a lot of biographical material because you know both of the secretaries, they are political appointees, confirmed by the u.s. senate in their jobs as the civilian leaders of their respective or since. secretary wilson overseeing organizing, training and equipment for about 600 it if i thousand forces, military and civilian. million insper, 1.4 the department of the united states armie, overseeing budgets that are growing and yet being trimmed in selected areas, so we will get to that. i thought it might be useful for everybody if we started, i know
we all know -- i don't need to turn my back on you, i am sorry, but we all know there are a up inof hotspots popping the stories every day -- iran, border,rea, syria, the and i wanted to ask all of you, within the context of your job, the responsibility of training, equipping, making sure the u.s. forces are ready, that they are compatible with allies in operations, to ask you to talk about in this current .ontext and i would like to start with the persian gulf, the flare up of tensions with iran and a wanted to talk to you about the state of readiness he have right now, how convince you are that theu.s. troops, and coalition, and the allies are ready to counter any provocation. secretary asper, let me start at
the end and work my way. because we know some of the potential adversarial threats against u.s. bases, u.s. troops, how -- aboutout how you are looking at come out what your focus is on this. sec. esper: sure. first, a few opening remarks, let me first by thinking from posting this. then i would like to thank secretary will send for being such a great colleague and friend in all we have done together the less couple of years. it has been remarkable. you, and i, and secretary spencer have worked very well together. ms. starr: for those who may not
be aware, secretary wilson will be, tell everyone what is in the works for you. sec. wilson: i am leaving the service at the end of may and i will be the president of the university of texas in el paso. sec. esper: our responsibilities , to answer your question, is to provide training and equip our forces were ever. with the army, we have been on and incredible trajectory in terms of rebuilding after years constraints on budget caused by the budget control act, and everything else, so we are very can dealt that we with any threats that come up in that region. ms. starr: can you give us your insight as for u.s. troops, coalition forces, do you into thee putting more region? do you have enough? think, what makes
you come to the conclusion that you can deal with all the adversarial threats? >> we have ready deployable forces to do that at any moment .s is reported by you, i think we have deployed a patriot force to the region. i have been out to iraq and afghanistan multiple times to visit our troops. they are often working shoulder shoulder, side-by-side with our coalition forces, including countries in the region and also outside the region. we work together well and we are prepared to deal with anything. but we prefer to work things out diplomatically. ms. starr: secretary wilson?
wilson: because now we have seen b52's and we know f15's are there. our responsibility is to organize, train and equip those forces so that when a combatant commander says that they move need forces to support diplomatic pressure efforts that we have those forces and we present them as ready force and we take care of their families while they are gone and they come home to a grateful nation. so we don't make the decisions about where they go, you make sure they are ready. ,n the case of the air force our job is to the power projection there at any moment. it was a little over 50 hours between when we get the call to send forces forward and when b-52s were on the ramp in the middle east. anytime, anywhere, ready to go. ms. starr: let me ask you. if i am correct, and please correct me if i'm wrong, the b-
1s are currently grounded as we speak, so you're pretty much down to the b-52s, and you have managed the deployment. sec. wilson: we have the same thing in the air force, the army and the navy, i guess we can speak for richardson since he is not here, our job when we came on board the secretary mattis gave to the three of us at the time was to restore the readiness of the force for any fight at any time. and we have seen because of the increase in support and budgets from the congress and the request in the president's budgets over the last three years, we have seen a significant improvement and for readiness for the force. for us, it is first and foremost about the people. ago, we were 4000 maintainers short in the united states air force. our active duty is not short of maintainers anymore. pilot shortage, spare parts, we are starting to turn the
corner on logistics, training hours, all those things matter for a ready force. ms. starr: is it correct b-52s at the have moment, and notb-1s? sec. wilson: i don't talk about things are and what readiness levels are in general. ms. starr: okay. the air force made a public announcement, the level of readiness and availability that you want. 5, we focus: thatf-3 on the operational squadrons when we assess readiness, not the proprietary aircraft, by the f-35 is a game changer of an aircraft. his supercomputer wrapped in a stealthy aircraft. when we take it out and do exercises, the kill ratio is 20:1.
starr: let us shift to the southwest border of the united states, that is another call, if you will, upon u.s. military forces. acting secretary shanahan was , and this weekend publicly, there have been public indications which is that the u.s. military will stay on the border until the border is secure. until dhs can secure it. yourtary esper, what is sense of what the demand essentially will be on u.s. forces? are we having a microphone issue? ok. what will the demand be on u.s. forces? you have been done to the border, tell us about what the demand will be for u.s. troops
. sec. esper: will have to see because demand is driven by requirements set forth by the department of homeland security, received by the secretary of defense, then passed to the northern command and they sort out what forces they want, whether it is army, navy, air force. so regular army versus either national guard or the reserve. ashink the bottom line is the chief of staff of the army, and i have testified, we have a million-man army, 4,000 troops at the border really does not a big impact have on the readiness of the united states army to deploy, fight and win. frankly, in terms of the types of units we are sending down there engineers, military police and others, and the mission they are performing, which is largely the mission they would perform in combat, they are not seeing that readiness yet, as they point out. this is one of the mission that
we have to perform. it happens every year whether it's fighting wild fires in california, hurricane relief in puerto rico or texas. we always are out doing some type of emergency work. it is our responsibility to the american people and we manage the risk and manage the units responsibly. ms. starr: you say they do the same thing that they would do if they were in combat. what kind of troops are you talking about when you say that. sec. wilson: engineers putting up obstacles, logisticians delivering supplies from point a to point b, medics providing medical service, those other functions they are doing right now down there. do you foresee it expanding or are you discussing this? sec. esper: i have not discussed that, we would have to see the department of security request, and secretary shanahan have to sort through what we can and cannot support. ,s. starr: i think your troops
pham correct, are also encouraging in airlift? sec. wilson: we have a small number of people involved. think the army probably has the largest element by far, and we are talking, think there is around 100 or fewer. there was small numbers of people. starr: i wanted to shift to a couple of other things. talk about iran, you also have north korea out there and russia out there in terms of being geopolitical hotspots. you,re you, for both of either one of you, how are you that, and in of particular, i think russia is very interesting because, you both have vigorous exercise and training programs in eastern europe, so where do you see that going?
the call on your forces in the situation, what is that presenting to you? sec. wilson: the national defense strategy published a year ago, the national defense strategy recognizes the emergence of a great power competition as the defining element of our time, and it guided the forces to shift, to look at great power competition in respect to how we train and equip the force, and what we plan to do. in the case of the air force, it really means focusing on china, as well as on russia. with respect to russia, i was in warsaw for discussions with the polish government and they deeply want to strengthen their partnership with the united states of america. one of the lines of effort guided by the national defense strategy is to deepen our alliances and establish new
partnerships. because it is a strategic strength of the united states. china has this new collinear list approach where they are best neocolonialist approach where they are seeking to buy support around the world. countries want to align with us because they have come on values, and those follies benefit partners and not that -- those values benefit partners and not just the united states. as a result, we have allies. that is a strategic strength. deepening those alliances is very important in the case of eastern europe, but also around the pacific. sec. esper: she had a great answer, i am not sure i can add to that. ms. starr: ok, i will follow-up with both of you. talking about alliances. i know that the u.s. army has alliances throughout eastern europe. but the reality in this town right now is that you have the white house and a president that
remains deeply skeptical that alliances and coalition partners , to paraphrase him, close to arcuate -- are not paying their share of the commitment that you make to these partners around the world. what challenges is disclosing you discuss this with your alliance partners that you have a president who is verbally and publicly skeptical, many times, of this concept? sec. wilson: this is not new. i served in the u.s. mission to nato in the 1980's, and one of the top issues at the time was sharing.rden our the nato allies carrying their share of their responsibilities for europe. the nato alliance made a commitment to try to get to 2% in somedp on defense, countries are making it, some
aren't. but the continued pressure but the united states on allies to say there is no free lunch, you have to be pulling the wagon, is a message that has come from the united states since the 1980's. sec. esper: i would say the same thing. you can hold both fox at the same time. i am a big believer in alliances. i served on nato in europe in the early 1990's. i think it is a strategic strength of hours, whether it is a formal allied treaty partner or a partner. i think at the same time we expect everybody to pull their share. an alliance works if everyone is working together and contributing the same appropriate amount of resources. you are only as strong as your weakest link. ms. starr: have either of you ever had a counterpart ring this issue up in the current administration, this has never once come up? i am quite curious, the president's concern, public concern about alliances not the
history of burden sharing,. i am fascinated that this never came up. sec. esper: i have actually heard from fellow officers and they are hearing the same from their partners in many countries, thank you for raising it. sec. wilson: because the pressure, elevating this issue, making this an issue causes countries to look internally and say, ok, what do we need to do as part of our collective self-defense commitment? i agree with mark, these are not incompatible thoughts. we are committed to a lot. we are all stronger when we work together. stronger together than any of us are alone. no question about that. but we all have to make a contribution to our national defense. , a countryexample that is committing more than 2% of its gdp toward national security is determined to demonstrate to its neighbors but
even though it is a relatively small country, it is going to carry its fair share of the load. i think kudos to them and other countries who commit to that goal. ms. starr: at the top of the hour at 2:00, we will go to audience questions. in a few minutes, we have microphones on either side of the room. .hen you raise your hand so start thinking up what you would like to ask if you have not thought of it already. more quicka couple things, i do think probably for every every, if not nation represented here, the issue of global climate change is something many governments are looking at in trying to determine their way ahead, and how they think about this issue. whatever they think, how they think. have both been asked by congress publicly whether your thoughts on whether global climate change is an bases in thelitary
united states are being infected by severe weather events. , inlieve the air force particular, is running a challenging to have the money to fix some of these areas. if you had it to do over again, in may not held bases coastal areas, or in nebraska, where often it is that there might be problems. stopped us about how you approach climate change and the severe weather events that are impacting you so much. sec. wilson: sure. base neara cavalry water for horses, so there are reasons for these things. is that true? sec. wilson: that is actually true. ms. starr: oh, wow. [laughter] sec. wilson: we also have bases for strategic reasons. because we have access to wonderful training areas and
test areas right off the coast of florida. so the air force, after the tyndale event and several other weather events, we took a look at best we are responsible for weather reporting for the entire department of defense, whether it is an issue for aircraft in flight operation. we actually did a review to look are the tools we are using? thinking about whether it is just another adversary, are there better ways to report on whether? there has been such an advance in weather analysis and prediction over the last decade, are you giveg advantage of them to our command is as much as as a as they can to know the risks they face? the second thing is resilience of our bases against all caps of things is important. --ike the navy, when they when there is trouble, the navy
these airbases, they go to see. we fight from our base, so it is very important for our bases to be resilient, from energy, water, to be immature rebuild runways. the resilience of our bases is important to matter what the adversary. if the adversary is it storm, that is one thing, if it is a potential attack, it is another. sec. esper: as a young officer, you are tasked to consider the operational planning and it is something you factor in. it is now something that we think about in the strategic level, as the climate changes, its impact in the coming years. we have plans to make sure we can adapt over time and that process will go forward. ms. starr: limit as to the same thing perhaps congress has asked you before. is believe that there
global climate change generated by man-made activity? sec. esper: climate change is happening, we know that. i have not studied the science to know what degree man is such a beating to that, but it is happening and we have to confront it and work on the issue as it evolves over time. ms. starr: you aren't sure if it beings?by human sec. wilson: no, i don't know to what degree humankind is cultivating, i don't know what percentage it is. sec. esper: to us, it doesn't matter. whatever the cause, we have to deal with it, and we are focusing on resilient basing and other kinds of things. ms. starr: you have to know what is causing some of this to appear for it. best to prepare for it. sec. wilson: the climate has been warming since the
last ice age and has accelerated in the past three years. regardless of the cause, our responsibility is to mature we are ready. so that is the way we look at it. ms. starr: let us go to the audience questions. somebody show me where the microphones are. sec. esper: i have one right here. here. start over if you would not mind identifying yourself and who you are representing. and who your question is for. north korea tested missiles twice last week. secretary wilson, do you believe missiles were the listed missiles, especially the second one on the eighth, and with the latest series of testing, has the threat to the united states and its allies, south korea and japan, increased? and with north korea continuing
provocation, is there a need to return to the review has expanded level of joint military southses with korea? sec. wilson: we consider north korean military capabilities to be a potential threat to their neighbors and we maintain readiness levels to be a better deal with any threat. sec. esper: the decision with regard to returning to whatever exercise we did in the past is not a call that the secretary makes, it is the responsibility of the combatant commander in theater in consultation with the secretary of defense and the secretary of the state, because of the end of the day, we're effectto help diplomatic efforts. ms. starr: i have one more question here and then we will go to the other side of the room. , secretary all wilson and secretary esper, thank you so much.
natoe on the front line of , and i think we have one of the most important and successful programs in my country. i believe, and i know, that the navy will benefit in the future. unfortunately, we are still under attack, and we believe your defense strategy beats expectations. the moderator just mentioned important regions like israel, north korea, and others, but i want to ask you about europe. how could in your experience, respond to the change in our dynamic surrounding in the black sea region? how you cooperate between the army, the navy and air force?
,s you face the challenges before congress appropriate the next years budget? that is my question. unfortunately in ukraine, we predict that this is not the final stage, we should be ready for any attack, but we're willing to change the situation in the black sea. thank you. sec. wilson: i think one of the things that u.s. has done in the last several years is the european defense initiative. we have done different things with those funds, would have done for positioned things. in the air force we have partnered with forward operating airbases up bring to standard, and then to be a but to accept very quickly american air forces and support them -- to be able to accept very quickly american air forces and support them so we are able to move our forces rapidly
wherever they may need to be. the ability to flow forces poured we hope has a deterrence effect. sec. esper: and i think, as we were talking earlier, we place value on our strategic partnerships, particularly our alliance partners, and we improve those relationships military sales, joints training, basing, etc. i had the chance to visit our soldiers and see the training we were doing with soldiers from your country. i think it is spot on. i attended a joint training event in bulgaria. i will soon be going to romania. i have been to poland. where theook at nato partners are, we are doing a lot of work to build interoperability, a mutual understanding and a partnership that makes the alliance strong. ms. starr: some additional questions? right here. >> thank you. ambassador from the bahamas. regarding the situation in
venezuela, it is no secret of the crisis in the country, and the humanitarian crisis on the border countries. has there been a miscalculation or a misreading of the situation betweener the standoff maduro regime and the interim president, juan guaido? sec. esper: i will disappoint you to say, it is not my responsibility or secretary wilson's as title x providers, that is a question best asked for the state department. i have the full confidence in secretary of state mike pompeo. ms. starr: i will ask him and his will a follow-up to that. [laughter] there has been very much a public, discussion public mentioned by secretary pompeo and national security adviser john bolton, as well as acting secretary shanahan about the
potential for a military option in venezuela. as i recall, acting secretary shanahan said the pentagon had planned exhaustively for a potential military option in venezuela. , given all the other dreams on your forces from other world hotspots, how ready is both the army and the air force anyone of these exhaustively planned military option for venezuela? wilson: we plan all the time, that is what militaries do . we organize, train, equip, and there are plans for all kinds of contingencies. -- it would be irresponsible not to do that. when you look at what is happening in venezuela, it is a , amendous tragedy humanitarian disaster at the creation of its government. we don't know what is going to continue to happen there but i
think it is wise to continue to evaluate and plan. ms. starr: with all due respect can you comment either of you on the readiness and availability of u.s. forces to execute anyone of those military options that has been exhaustively planned shanahan's words? sec. wilson: we are always ready. that is our job, to be ready to deploy forces forward in any contingency around the world and that is why we maintain three service secretaries whose responsibility is not to fight, andto organize, train equip ready forces. that the responsibility we have to the country. >> sorry. let's get asee you, microphone over to you, sir. >> thank you.
i am the defense attache from south africa. onquestion is mainly based syria and afghanistan. announcedge it was that the usa forces are intending to withdraw from syria and afghanistan. but the battles are still going on, and from time to time, we lives.e or two what is the present position in any withdrawal from those countries? are we still going to withdraw or not? thank you. ms. starr: are you still planning to withdraw your troops from syria and afghanistan as publicly discussed in the past? sec. esper: i think the intentions expressed by the
white house was some drawdown overtime. i don't track the numbers in detail. that is something that is really a decision by the president, coordinated through the secretary of defense with the combatant commander. he is the one who fights the forces abroad. we provide the forces. i have heard nothing different than what you just said. sec. wilson: same. ms. starr: ok. additional questions? anybody? otherwise, i will have to keep asking. we will get right back to you, sir. [indiscernible] ms. starr: are right. that is fine. [laughter] >> hello. i am the iraqi ambassador. thank you for your service. as we transition from advise and assist to train and equip, thank you, again. i have so many questions, whether it is about the role of drones in the future, or the but the question i
will ask you is based on a discussion i have had with secretary mattis a couple of years ago. when he was talking about the directions in which he was trying to push u.s. forces to increase their lethality. he mentions three topics -- artificial intelligence, directed energy, and hypersonics. 5hen will we have a mac- airplane? and as a corollary, this is based on a question i heard someone ask a commander, somebody asked him, what his favorite fish was. you said something nice about the f-35. i will ask you, what is your favorite airplane of all time? sec. wilson: my favorite airplane of all time is the sr-7 1. it is a wonderful aircraft, amazing technology.
a wonderful story of innovation. there is a long story there about the materials that were developed to go at high speeds at a higher altitude, there is a lot of interesting stories on technology. may be that relates to your question, where are we on artificial intelligence, directed energy, hypersonics? the air force just released a strategy to look at how we organize ourselves for technical innovation and what should the priorities be. it is a little different than past science and technology strategies. the air force has updated its science and technology strategy every five to 10 years since the 1940's.40's -- in this case, the focus is on time, speed, and complexity. we have identified some areas where we want to research and we are trying to do this differently. but speed includes things like
hypersonics and it is a great story because one of our first breakfast meetings with the three service secretaries, -- we just had another one this morning -- we talk about our research and development portfolios. i think the navy had funded an army prototype of a hypersonic that worked better than ours, but we had rockets that were better than theirs, and the secretary of the navy said, it is going to take too long to strengthen the diameter, do you think we could do the best of breed, get our people together, come up with a happy sonic weapon to test and drop it off on aircraft or lunch and on the deck ofor put it on the a ship? so we got everyone together and we signed a memorandum of understanding and we said, go fast, use the best technology, and share the information and results. i think we have accelerated the
development of hypersonics by five or six years as a result. sec. esper: we in the army have a major modernization effort underway right now. it is hypersonics, directed energy, robotics, and artificial intelligence,. i think in the coming years will be at the point to have some semi-autonomous vehicles on the battlefields. thatnk the question for me gets to the topic recovered earlier and often comes up in audiences like this is that part of the concern here is the i think the u.s. military is prepared to make a major leap in the future, in the coming years, and if our allies and partners do not invest, we risk of there being a divide between us in terms of capability. that is why i think in many ways, we talk about investing as partners and allies.
it is very important that we move together, if we are going to deter future conflicts. , the chief of staff of the army likes to say when people talk about how expensive it is to have a first-class military, he would often say, and he is right, the only thing most expensive is to fight a war. the only thing more expensive than fighting a war is to fight a war and lose one. i think we're all focused on that. mr. sure we have the investment necessary, and congress has been very helpful in this regard in the last couple of years, especially last year, to mature we are it would to deter conflict in the future. -- to make sure that we are able to deter conflict in the future. sec. wilson: and also to emphasize that point, predictability in our budgets over the last three years has made a tremendous difference. for the first time, in a think nine years, we have had a budget
to start the year on the first of october. the air force and the navy are now facing a terrible situation where we had a category five hurricane slam into one of our bases if live in one of our other bases and we still have not gotten the supplemental funding through to fix that. self-insured by the united states congress. the disaster happened in october. and the consequences of that disaster on the panhandle of florida, if you go down there today, it still looks like a war zone. it has been absolutely devastated and we still have not gotten a first insurance payment to help the base recover. more than anything else right now, we need to get the supplemental, because we have been robbing every other account across the air force to pay for that, and we are now seven
months, eight months through the fiscal year? us.of that is behind if we don't get this, it hurts the rest of the air force around the country. ms. starr: i am coming close to the last question here. sorry, we will make you the last question, then i will ask. [laughter] >> thank you. i am the representative of the kurdistan regional government in iraq. we have heard a great deal about allies, trading partners, forever ready, which is all great. so i would like to ask, if you can apply all of that, to how the u.s. will deal with the threat of isis and other similar terrorist organizations in iraq. they are still a threat, but they also have provinces across the world. how do you work through all the things you have talked about with regards to working with you partners on the ground on this issue? thank you.
sec. esper: the national defense strategy, which has its focus on high intensity conflict against peer competitors also tells us we need to prepare for the long-term to deal with irregular warfare, specifically countering terrorist organizations and whatnot. those partnerships will continue. wherever they are, whether it is in the centcom, the middle east southeast asia,, all over the world. we are trying to confront this groups to make sure that problem does not grow. i see the partnerships continuing. i see the investments in special operations command continuing. the army is probably the biggest provider to our special operations force. all of that falls under the umbrella of warfare and it will continue to be a priority for us. ms. starr: let me ask you of.thing, secretary it struck me a minute ago when he talked about the need for coalitions and alliances here. that the u.s.fare
is moving towards, hypersonic, space force, all of that, is something that you want other countries very much to not be left behind. but the reality, of course, is there are many countries in the world that have circumstances that best economic circumstances that simply don't allow them to spend per capita on par with the united states, they don't have the resources. they may not have the military force and expertise at this point to embrace all of that. a lot of what you both talked about very understandably, is very classified future technology that the u.s. would not be ready to share any how. movingwe inevitably then toward a military divide in the powers,tween the great so to speak, russia, china and the united states -- russia and
china, we know are investing in these technologies, perhaps not quite as successfully. maybe they are. are we running into a military divide between the countries that don't? sec. wilson: i don't see that. i see the partnerships that we have deepening. the united states air force trains will hundred noncommissioned officers from latin america every year at lackland air force base in spanish. we train our partners and allies . you talk about high-tech, we have now opened our space programs. we now have a combined space operations center. we opened our space training programs. space 100 taught in the united states is taught to 20 allies with allied officers engaged and involved, and we are putting our centers on allied spacecraft.
we have a center that is going up aboard a norwegian satellite and are working on the same with japan. so even in areas of technology, we are deepening our partnerships, because good ideas are not just coming from the united states. ms. starr: secretary esper, your thoughts? sec. esper: a-shares secretary share's views -- i secretary wilson's views. we will incorporate export ability into our future. part,tioned the training we train hundreds of pilots every year or no aircraft, on our fight systems. we train soldiers throughout our school system, from west point all the way to the war college we have foreign students. we think it is valuable to have those programs. but the key to collective defense is everybody contributing their fair share. what we don't want to do is have gaps. we want to maintain interoperability, great
collaboration, as we move forward and i will require investment from all of us going forward. ms. starr: we are about out of time because everybody eventually has to go back to the pentagon,. me. [laughter] me, especially. so -- i want to thank you very much for moderating today. secretary wilson, secretary esper, thank you very much. we are delighted to have all the ambassadors here. i think senator donnelly is here as well, thank you. you are what -- senator donnelly is here as well. joe, welcome. we'll have our next program on the 21st, if everyone is interested. thank you for being here. we appreciate your interest in the meridian international center. [applause]
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